Wednesday, December 24, 2008

Data! Some Anecdotes!

Remember what I said earlier about Obama's invitation to Rick Warren potentially having a divisive effect on the Christianists? Read 'em and weep. With joy.

From David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network (via):

Liberals and gay activists aren’t happy with Barack Obama for choosing pro-life and prop 8 supporting pastor Rick Warren to give the invocation at Obama’s inaugural. But pro-life readers seem to be equally upset at Rick warren for agreeing to it.

The Brody File has been flooded with emails and most of them absolutely rip Pastor Warren for doing this. Below is but a very small sampling. I can’t reprint all of them but let me just say that pro-lifers are NOT happy with Warren at all.

From Michael Mello of the Orange County Register (via):

Southern Baptist Pastor Wiley Drake bashed Saddleback Church Pastor Rick Warren this week, saying "God will punish" Warren for agreeing to give the invocation at President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration next month.

"I pray He is kind to you in this punishment that is coming," Drake wrote in a widely-released e-mail. In it, the First Southern Baptist Church of Buena Park pastor criticizes Warren's "recent plan to invoke the presence of almighty God on this evil illegal alien," a reference to Obama.

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Drake said Warren, also a Southern Baptist minister, is "hurting our denomination, and the Lord's work."

He continued: "God will deal with you on this … God will not wink at this."

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"It's an abomination before God and God's going to deal with that," Drake, in an interview, said about Warren's role in the inauguration. "I've gotten several e-mails in response, and overwhelmingly, they have been supportive."

On Freedom's Wings headlines "Christian Conservatives Should Be Upset About Rick Warren Choice As Well" and says, among other things:

And does anyone believe that Obama will embrace Christian conservatives? I mean his theology is Marxist Black Liberation so I really don’t see that happening, nor do I think that he is a Christian although I cannot see his heart. I agree that this is a good move on Obama’s part, but my focus is on Rick Warren. Just as I went after Joel Hunter about praying at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, I’m going after Rick Warren on this.

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I also question how someone could appear to endorse a President who supports infanticide and Marxism. We should all pray for our President regardless of who that person is, but should we endorse that person?

Hold on tight now. Bad craziness coming. She contrasts Warren to Billy Graham ("a true man of God who has not used his celebrity for personal gain") and his son Franklin (who "would seem the likely heir to the Inaugural Invocation in the spirit of tradition") and wonders:

So is this shift coming perhaps from God Himself? Have we turned our backs on Him to such a degree that He is handing us over now? Of course, I would expect both Grahams to either decline the offer or use the opportunity to spread the gospel and strongly condemn the areas of disagreement with Barack Obama, yes even the gay marriage stuff.

NB: OFW describes herself as gay.

Christian broadcaster Ingrid Schlueter, blogging at Slice of Laodicea, has a whole category devoted to Rick Warren, called "Purpose Driven Madness," featuring posts with titles such as "Rick Warren to Give Invocation for Pro-Child Killing Obama," which concludes:

To those who defend Rick Warren in his treachery and betrayal, God help you. Repent of your blindness before it’s too late to turn back.

In a later post alerting readers to her next radio show, she says:

I’ll be discussing the issue of neutrality on moral issues in light of Rick Warren’s agreement to pray for God’s blessing on Barack Obama’s Administration which is committed to the unspeakable evil of child killing, among other things. Warren now finds himself in the middle with fundamentalists on either side–both Christian and homosexual. As he attempts to dodge the shrapnel in his unfortunate position, it’s a reminder that in the spiritual battle we face, there is no middle ground.

BTW, if you didn't already know: "The Laodicean Church ... is probably best known for being one of the seven churches addressed by name in the Book of Revelation."

Joseph Farah, editor-in-chief of WorldNetDaily, posts an open letter (via) to Rick Warren , beginning:

I'm writing to share my profound and abject revulsion at your agreement to offer the invocation at the inauguration of Barack Hussein Obama as president Jan. 20.

I understand you want this to be a time of "healing" for our nation. I understand you consider Obama to be your "friend." I understand your desire to bring "civility" to our society.

However, when we read the Bible, we see there are times for men of God to stand up to leaders, like Nathan did to King David, and confront them with the absolute truth of God's word and His laws. That's what all Christians should do when confronted with leaders embracing evil.

Evil?

That's a strong word.

But I use it advisedly.

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I'm trying to imagine Jesus giving an invocation at the inauguration of such a man. I think you will agree, it's unimaginable.

Wait. I thought Obama was the Messiah. Wingnuts are so confusing.

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